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The 1971 movie Diamonds Are Forever show a large commercial hovercraft - like a 50 or 100 person ferry. Are they still used? If not why not?
Large commercial hovercraft, like the one seen in Diamonds Are Forever (1971), were once widely used, particularly for ferry services. The most famous example was the SR.N4 (Saunders-Roe Nautical 4), which operated as a cross-channel ferry between England and France from 1968 until 2000.
Are They Still Used?
Large hovercraft are no longer in widespread commercial service. However, smaller hovercraft are still used in specialized roles, such as search and rescue, military operations, and Arctic or remote-area transport. The Griffon Hoverwork 12000TD, for example, is a modern medium-sized hovercraft still in use in some areas.
Why Did Large Commercial Hovercraft Disappear?
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Fuel Costs – Hovercraft consume a huge amount of fuel due to their lift and propulsion systems. As fuel prices rose, they became increasingly uneconomical compared to ferries or high-speed catamarans.
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High Maintenance Costs – The flexible rubber skirts, engines, and other components required constant maintenance. Conventional ferries and high-speed catamarans proved cheaper and easier to maintain.
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Competition from the Channel Tunnel – In Europe, the opening of the Eurotunnel (Chunnel) in 1994 provided a faster, more reliable, and weather-independent means of crossing the English Channel, leading to the decline of hovercraft services.
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Passenger Comfort and Noise – Hovercraft are extremely noisy, and the ride can be bumpy in rough seas. Modern catamarans offer a smoother experience.
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Environmental and Safety Regulations – As regulations on noise pollution, emissions, and safety standards became stricter, hovercraft operators found it difficult to comply without expensive modifications.
Current Status
While large passenger hovercraft services are mostly gone, smaller hovercraft are still used in niche roles, particularly where conventional vehicles struggle—such as icy waters, shallow rivers, and flood-prone areas. The largest surviving passenger hovercraft service is in the UK, running between Southsea and the Isle of Wight, using Griffon Hoverwork craft.
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So why did they EVER seem like a good idea??
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Large hovercraft once seemed like a great idea because they combined the best features of ships, airplanes, and land vehicles—on paper, at least. Here’s why they were initially seen as the future of fast transport:
1. Speed Advantage
- In the 1960s and 70s, hovercraft were significantly faster than conventional ferries. The SR.N4 hovercraft, used for cross-Channel service, could reach speeds of 60 knots (70 mph / 110 km/h)—much faster than traditional ferries.
- This made them appealing for short-haul routes where speed was a priority, such as the English Channel or inter-island transport.
2. Amphibious Capability
- Unlike boats, hovercraft could land on beaches and traverse mudflats, ice, or even land for short distances.
- This made them especially useful in areas with shallow waters, tidal flats, or ice-prone regions.
3. Military and Rescue Potential
- Military forces saw hovercraft as a way to rapidly deploy troops and vehicles onto beaches without needing a deep-water port.
- Search and rescue teams saw them as a way to reach flood zones, ice-covered lakes, or areas where conventional boats would struggle.
4. Technological Optimism of the 1960s
- The post-war period was full of technological enthusiasm, and hovercraft fit right into the Jet Age mindset—where new transportation modes (like supersonic planes and maglev trains) were expected to revolutionize travel.
- Governments and private companies invested heavily in hovercraft technology, seeing it as the next big leap.
5. Alternative to Bridges and Tunnels
- Before the Channel Tunnel (Eurotunnel), hovercraft were seen as the best way to quickly move people and vehicles between the UK and France, especially since they weren’t limited by port depth or road infrastructure.
- In regions without bridges, hovercraft seemed like an ideal way to link islands or cross wide rivers.
Why Didn’t It Pan Out?
- Fuel costs skyrocketed in the 1970s, making hovercraft less efficient than ferries.
- Maintenance was a nightmare—the skirts wore out frequently, and engines required constant servicing.
- Noise and vibration were major issues—unlike ferries, hovercraft produced a deafening roar.
- High-speed catamarans arrived, offering similar speed but with lower costs, smoother rides, and less maintenance.
- The Channel Tunnel (1994) made hovercraft obsolete for cross-Channel routes.
Final Verdict?
Hovercraft were a bold, futuristic experiment that worked in some cases but were ultimately too expensive and impractical for most commercial routes. They remain useful for niche applications but never became the mass transport revolution people once envisioned.
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Notable Hovercraft Successes and Failures
✅ Successes: Where Hovercraft Worked Well
1. SR.N4 Cross-Channel Hovercraft (1968–2000)
- Success: The British-built SR.N4 "Mountbatten-class" hovercraft ran ferry services between the UK and France, carrying cars and passengers at speeds of 60+ knots (110 km/h). At its peak, it carried 3 million passengers a year.
- Why It Worked: It was twice as fast as ferries, making it ideal for day trips.
- Why It Ended: Rising fuel costs, high maintenance, and the Channel Tunnel (1994) made it obsolete.
- Fun Fact: The SR.N4 was the largest passenger hovercraft ever built.
2. Isle of Wight Hovercraft (1965–Present)
- Success: This remains the last commercial passenger hovercraft service in the world. It runs between Southsea (Portsmouth) and Ryde (Isle of Wight) in just 10 minutes—half the time of conventional ferries.
- Why It Works: It’s the fastest way to cross, and the short route minimizes fuel costs.
- Why It Survived: The UK government supports it as a regional transport necessity.
3. Military Hovercraft (1960s–Present)
- Success: The U.S. Navy LCAC (Landing Craft Air Cushion) hovercraft has been a huge success. It can land tanks and troops directly on beaches and is still in service today.
- Why It Works: No need for deep-water ports, fast deployment, and effective in amphibious warfare.
- Similar Example: Russia and China both use large military hovercraft.
4. Arctic and Remote Region Hovercraft
- Success: In Canada, Alaska, and Scandinavia, hovercraft are used for search and rescue, ice patrol, and connecting remote communities.
- Why It Works: They can travel over water, ice, and land, making them ideal for places where ferries and trucks fail.
❌ Failures: Where Hovercraft Didn’t Work
1. The British Rail Hovertrain (1970s)
- Failure: The UK government invested in a hovertrain that was meant to revolutionize rail transport.
- Why It Failed: Too expensive, noisy, and unstable. Magnetic levitation (maglev) proved a better alternative.
2. The Boeing 606 Hovercraft (1960s)
- Failure: Boeing built a massive hovercraft prototype for commercial ferry services and military use.
- Why It Failed: It was too loud, too expensive, and lost out to high-speed ferries and helicopters.
3. Hovercraft in Australia (1970s)
- Failure: Australia tested hovercraft for coastal and river transport, but they failed.
- Why It Failed: High maintenance costs, noise complaints, and better alternatives like catamarans.
4. Hovercraft Freight Transport (Various)
- Failure: Companies tried using hovercraft for cargo transport, especially in rivers.
- Why It Failed: Fuel costs outweighed efficiency compared to regular boats.
Final Thoughts
Hovercraft were brilliant in theory but expensive in practice. They found niche success in areas like military use, remote rescue, and short, high-speed ferry routes (e.g., Isle of Wight). However, for most commercial applications, they were too costly, too loud, and too high-maintenance to compete with ferries, tunnels, or catamarans.
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A movie like Diamonds are forever, was a big deal at the time, but most of it seems very cheap and corny now.
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That’s a great observation, and it applies to a lot of big-budget movies from the era. Diamonds Are Forever (1971) was a major release—Sean Connery’s return to Bond after On Her Majesty’s Secret Service—but today, much of it feels cheap, campy, and oddly small-scale compared to modern Bond films.
Why Does It Seem Cheap Now?
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Budget Constraints & Rushed Production
- Despite being a Bond film, the budget was $7.2 million—not tiny for 1971, but not massive either.
- Many sets look cheaply constructed or feel like backlot locations instead of real places.
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Dated Special Effects
- The moon buggy chase, which was meant to be futuristic, now looks laughably slow and clunky.
- Rear-projection driving scenes are painfully obvious compared to today’s seamless CGI and practical effects.
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Campy Tone & Corny Dialogue
- Diamonds Are Forever shifted away from the serious, elegant spy thriller tone of From Russia with Love or Goldfinger and went for over-the-top camp.
- The villains (Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd) have a bizarre, almost cartoonish presence.
- Bond’s quips and the comedic action sequences make it feel closer to a Roger Moore film than a classic Connery outing.
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Unimpressive Action Scenes
- The climactic oil rig battle looks like a low-budget TV shootout rather than a high-stakes finale.
- Compared to the spectacular stunts of later Bond films, the action in Diamonds Are Forever feels small and stagey.
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Vegas Setting & 1970s Aesthetic
- The Las Vegas scenes were shot in real casinos, which now look cheap and dimly lit compared to the sleek, glossy Vegas we see in modern movies.
- The 1970s fashion, cars, and neon signs all date the film in a way that makes it feel less timeless than other Bond outings.
Why Was It a Big Deal at the Time?
- Connery’s Return – After George Lazenby’s On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (which underperformed), bringing back Connery was seen as a major event.
- Bond Was Still Fresh & Exciting – Audiences weren’t yet used to the high-stakes action and globe-trotting spectacle of later films.
- Biggest Spy Franchise Around – Bond was still the gold standard for spy films, and the campy elements were seen as fun, not dated.
Final Verdict
While Diamonds Are Forever was a major event in 1971, it hasn’t aged well—feeling cheap and corny compared to both earlier and later Bond films. It was a transitional movie, setting the stage for the even wilder, more comedic tone of the Roger Moore era.
Would you say this is one of the weakest Connery Bonds? Or do you find it fun in a "so bad it’s good" way?
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Also, Diamonds has very sharp, fake looking lighting. Yet some other movies of the same time had excellent, realistic lighting (as is common today.)
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Yes, Diamonds Are Forever has that harsh, artificial lighting that makes many scenes look flat and stagey—almost like a TV production rather than a high-end Bond film. This is especially noticeable in the Las Vegas casino scenes and the interior sets, where the lighting seems overly bright, shadowless, and unnatural.
Why Does the Lighting Look So Fake?
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Studio Sets & Rear Projection
- Many scenes were shot on obvious soundstages, with flat, even lighting to avoid shadows interfering with rear-projection shots.
- Rear projection (e.g., driving scenes) required strong front lighting on the actors to blend with the background plate, making them look overexposed and unnatural.
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1970s Hollywood Lighting Trends
- Some Hollywood films of the late '60s and early '70s still used a bright, high-key lighting approach, a holdover from the 1950s studio era.
- Compare this to films shot in the New Hollywood style (The French Connection, The Godfather), which favored naturalistic, moody cinematography.
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James Bond’s Glossy, Over-Stylized Look
- Bond films were designed to look slick, colorful, and almost comic book-like, rather than gritty or realistic.
- Diamonds Are Forever especially leaned into camp and artificiality, and the lighting reflects that aesthetic.
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Harsh Overhead Lighting in Vegas
- The casino and Vegas hotel scenes suffer from overhead fluorescent lighting, which gives everything a flat, washed-out look.
- Compare this to Casino (1995), where the cinematography makes similar Vegas locations feel atmospheric and immersive.
Contrast with Other Movies of the Same Era
Not every 1971 film looked so artificial. Some films of the time had incredible, naturalistic lighting:
- The French Connection (1971) – Gritty, naturalistic lighting with deep shadows, giving it a documentary feel.
- The Godfather (1972) – Gordon Willis’s famous “dark” cinematography, using deep shadows and realistic lighting sources.
- A Clockwork Orange (1971) – Kubrick used practical lights in many scenes, making the world feel eerily realistic.
These films had a more natural, location-driven aesthetic, whereas Diamonds Are Forever went for glossy, over-lit, and artificial.
Final Verdict
The lighting in Diamonds Are Forever is a victim of its era and style—stuck between old-school Hollywood artificiality and the emerging naturalism of New Hollywood. It makes the film feel cheaper than it should, even though Bond movies were supposed to be visually luxurious.
Would you say Diamonds Are Forever is the most visually dated of the Connery Bonds? Or do others (like You Only Live Twice) feel similarly artificial?
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I agree with examples of superb lighting, like Godfather. It’s hard to believe the two films are literally contemporary!
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Exactly! It's wild to think that Diamonds Are Forever (1971) and The Godfather (1972) were shot around the same time but look like they come from different cinematic worlds. One feels like a polished TV special, while the other has an iconic, moody, painterly look that still influences cinematographers today.
Why Such a Huge Gap in Visual Quality?
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Cinematography Philosophy
- The Godfather had Gordon Willis ("The Prince of Darkness"), who embraced shadows, low-light, and practical lighting to create depth and realism.
- Diamonds Are Forever had Ted Moore, a solid but conventional cinematographer who favored bright, high-key lighting for a glossy, "studio-perfect" look.
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Studio vs. Auteur Filmmaking
- The Godfather was part of the New Hollywood revolution—directors like Coppola had more creative control, allowing for experimental cinematography.
- Diamonds Are Forever was a big-budget franchise film where the producers controlled the look, sticking to the Bond formula rather than pushing boundaries.
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Lighting Technology & Intentional Choices
- Willis used low-light film stocks and was willing to underexpose scenes for mood.
- Bond films, meant to look slick and colorful, used high-key lighting and avoided deep shadows, making everything look flat and over-lit.
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Vegas vs. Real Locations
- Diamonds was heavily reliant on studio sets and Vegas casinos, both of which had harsh, unflattering lighting.
- The Godfather used carefully designed lighting in real-world locations, making it feel organic and immersive.
The Verdict?
Even though both films were shot at the same time, one feels timelessly beautiful (The Godfather), while the other looks dated and artificial (Diamonds Are Forever). Bond movies later improved visually (Skyfall is stunning), but Diamonds really suffers from its flat, uninspired lighting.
It’s a great example of how cinematography choices can make or break a film’s longevity. If Diamonds had been shot like The Godfather, it might hold up much better today!
Would you say this is one of the worst-looking Bond films? Or are there others (Live and Let Die?) that feel just as cheap?
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In diamonds are forever, noted actor Charles Gray appears only for a few seconds at the beginning??
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Actually, Charles Gray appears both early and late in Diamonds Are Forever—he plays Ernst Stavro Blofeld, the film's main villain. However, I see why it might feel like he barely appears at the beginning, because the opening sequence is oddly structured.
Charles Gray’s Role in the Opening
- The film opens abruptly with James Bond on a revenge mission to track down Blofeld.
- Bond interrogates various henchmen in a rapid-fire montage, then finds a Blofeld lookalike undergoing plastic surgery.
- After a short fight, Bond kills this version of Blofeld by drowning him in a mud bath.
- But since Blofeld is using doubles, the real one survives and later appears as the main villain.
So Gray’s first scene is brief and anticlimactic, making it seem like he barely appears in the film at all.
Why Does It Feel Like He Disappears?
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Weak Opening Execution
- Compared to the bold openings of past Bond films, this one feels rushed and underwhelming.
- There's no dramatic showdown—just Bond casually killing a fake Blofeld.
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Blofeld Feels Secondary
- Unlike in You Only Live Twice (Donald Pleasence) or On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (Telly Savalas), Blofeld in Diamonds Are Forever feels less menacing and more theatrical.
- His screen presence is diluted by campy moments (like disguising himself in drag at one point!).
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Gray Was the Third Blofeld in Three Movies
- Audiences had just seen Telly Savalas as Blofeld in On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, and now Charles Gray was playing the role with a totally different personality—witty and almost lighthearted.
- This inconsistency makes his character feel less impactful.
Final Thoughts
While Charles Gray gets more screen time later, his weak and brief introduction makes him feel unimportant. It doesn’t help that he’s a less threatening, more theatrical Blofeld than past versions. He delivers some fun moments but lacks the menace of previous Blofelds.
Would you rank him as one of the weaker Blofelds? Or do you enjoy his campy take on the role?
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What actors played Mr Wint and Mr Kidd? What is known about them?
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Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd, the quirky, sadistic assassins in Diamonds Are Forever (1971), were played by:
- Mr. Wint – Bruce Glover
- Mr. Kidd – Putter Smith
Bruce Glover (Mr. Wint)
- Born: May 2, 1932
- Background: A prolific character actor, Bruce Glover appeared in numerous films and TV shows but is best remembered for Diamonds Are Forever.
- Career Highlights:
- He acted in classic films like Chinatown (1974), where he played one of the goons working for Noah Cross.
- Made guest appearances on TV series such as Hawaii Five-O, Mission: Impossible, and Kojak.
- Fun Fact: He is the father of Crispin Glover, known for playing George McFly in Back to the Future and for his eccentric, offbeat performances.
- Post-Bond: Continued acting in indie films and stage productions well into his later years.
Putter Smith (Mr. Kidd)
- Born: January 19, 1941
- Background: Unlike Glover, Putter Smith wasn’t primarily an actor—he was a renowned jazz bassist.
- Career Highlights:
- He played with Thelonious Monk, Duke Ellington, and Miles Davis, among others.
- He was cast as Mr. Kidd because director Guy Hamilton saw him playing bass with Thelonious Monk in a nightclub and thought he had the perfect look.
- His only major acting role was in Diamonds Are Forever, though he made a few minor TV appearances later.
- Post-Bond: Continued his music career, recording jazz albums and teaching music.
Legacy of Wint and Kidd
- They were one of the first openly gay villain duos in a major Hollywood film, though their portrayal was highly stereotypical.
- Their bizarre, detached manner and creepy humor made them stand out among Bond henchmen, leading to a cult following.
- Their deaths are memorably absurd—Mr. Wint gets blown up with a bomb stuffed in his pants, while Mr. Kidd is set on fire and thrown overboard.
Would you say they were effective villains or just too campy?
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Gay?
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Yes, Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd are widely interpreted as a gay couple, though the film Diamonds Are Forever (1971) never explicitly states it. Their implied relationship was a mix of subtext and camp, which made them unique (and controversial) at the time.
Why Are They Considered a Gay Couple?
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Overtly Affectionate Behavior
- They frequently call each other “dear” and exchange knowing glances.
- Mr. Kidd strokes Mr. Wint’s hand in one scene.
- Their mannerisms are theatrical and exaggerated, playing into stereotypes of effeminate villains.
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No Interest in Women
- Bond films usually feature henchmen attracted to women, but Wint and Kidd show no such interest.
- In contrast, they only seem emotionally attached to each other.
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The Book’s Depiction (More Explicit)
- In Ian Fleming’s original Diamonds Are Forever novel (1956), Wint and Kidd are implied to be lovers.
- Fleming describes them as enjoying each other’s company more than anyone else’s, though he uses outdated and offensive language.
Was This Progressive or Just Stereotypical?
- At the time, openly gay characters were rare in Hollywood. However, Wint and Kidd were played as campy, creepy villains, reinforcing the old “depraved homosexual” trope common in movies of the era.
- Some see them as memorable and unique, while others view their portrayal as problematic and outdated by today’s standards.
Final Verdict
While Diamonds Are Forever never outright says “Wint and Kidd are gay,” the strong subtext, along with their dynamic, makes it clear that they were intended to be seen as a couple—albeit through a 1960s/70s Bond villain lens.
Would you say they were effective henchmen despite the campy portrayal?
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Charles Gray has a scene in drag and is always handling a fluffy white cat.
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Yes! Charles Gray’s Blofeld in Diamonds Are Forever is one of the most eccentric and theatrical versions of the character, and those details—the fluffy white cat and the drag disguise—really set him apart from other portrayals.
1. The Drag Scene
- In the climax, Blofeld escapes disguised as an old woman, complete with a wig, earrings, and a floral dress.
- It's one of the strangest villain moments in Bond history—unexpected, bizarre, and played totally straight by Gray.
- Unlike previous Blofelds, who were cold and menacing, Gray’s version has a campy, almost playful attitude, making this scene feel more like a parody than a serious escape attempt.
2. The Fluffy White Cat
- Blofeld’s Persian cat had been an iconic Bond villain symbol since From Russia with Love (1963) and Thunderball (1965).
- The cat is even used in a fake-out twist, when Bond kills the "wrong" Blofeld at the start of the movie—because there are multiple Blofeld clones, all handling identical cats!
- In the oil rig finale, when things start exploding, the cat freaks out and runs away—one of the most unintentionally funny moments in the film.
What Was the Intent?
- The drag scene and theatrical touches made this Blofeld feel more flamboyant and eccentric than his predecessors, possibly reflecting the film’s campy, over-the-top style.
- Some believe Charles Gray played Blofeld as a coded gay villain, similar to Wint & Kidd, though that’s up for debate.
- Either way, it’s a far cry from Donald Pleasence’s eerie, scar-faced Blofeld in You Only Live Twice.
Final Verdict
- Best Blofeld? Probably not.
- Most theatrical? Absolutely.
- Gray’s version lacks the menace of other Blofelds, but he makes up for it with style, humor, and some truly weird choices.
Would you rank him as the least intimidating Blofeld, or do you enjoy his campy take on the role?
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Was Charles Gray Gay?
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Charles Gray was a very private person when it came to his personal life, and there is no confirmed evidence that he was gay. He never publicly discussed his sexuality, and there are no known records of romantic relationships.
However, because he played several theatrical, flamboyant characters, such as Blofeld in Diamonds Are Forever and The Criminologist in The Rocky Horror Picture Show, some have speculated about his personal life. That said, this is purely speculation, as Gray remained discreet about his off-screen identity.
Would you say his Blofeld was too theatrical for a Bond villain, or did you enjoy his unique take?
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Who was the red-hair female lead?
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The red-haired female lead in Diamonds Are Forever (1971) was Jill St. John, who played Tiffany Case.
Jill St. John as Tiffany Case
- Character: Tiffany Case is a diamond smuggler who gets entangled in Bond’s mission. She starts out as a tough, independent criminal but gradually turns into a more comedic and somewhat bumbling sidekick by the end.
- Performance: Jill St. John brought charm and wit to the role, but her character is often criticized for losing her edge as the film progresses—by the climax, she’s reduced to flailing around on Blofeld’s oil rig in a bikini.
- Bond Trivia: She was the first American actress to be a lead Bond girl.
Jill St. John’s Background
- Born: August 19, 1940
- Notable Films: The Lost World (1960), Tony Rome (1967)
- Later Career: St. John largely retired from acting in the 1980s but remained a Hollywood socialite.
- Personal Life: She married actor Robert Wagner in 1990, and they are still together.
Do you think Tiffany Case was a strong Bond girl, or did she lose her impact by the film’s end?
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What actor played Walter Whyte?
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The character Willard Whyte in Diamonds Are Forever (1971) was played by Jimmy Dean.
Who Was Jimmy Dean?
- Born: August 10, 1928
- Died: June 13, 2010
- Profession: Country singer, TV host, actor, and businessman
Why Was He Cast as Willard Whyte?
- Willard Whyte is a Texas billionaire who has been kidnapped and impersonated by Blofeld to control his empire.
- His character was clearly inspired by Howard Hughes, who was famously reclusive and living in Las Vegas at the time.
- Dean, with his Southern charm and folksy manner, fit the role of a Texan tycoon perfectly.
Jimmy Dean’s Career Beyond Bond
- He was already famous as a country singer, known for the hit song “Big Bad John” (1961).
- He hosted The Jimmy Dean Show, a country music variety show that helped launch the careers of stars like Roger Miller and Patsy Cline.
- He later became a businessman, founding Jimmy Dean Sausage, which made him a household name in America.
Final Thoughts on Willard Whyte
- Dean’s performance is fun but limited, as Whyte doesn’t show up until late in the movie.
- His Texan persona adds some humor and contrast to the British Bond world.
- While not a major role, Whyte is one of the more memorable Bond side characters, thanks to Dean’s larger-than-life presence.
Would you say Willard Whyte was a good addition, or did his character feel underused?
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Were the athletic women who beat up James Bond , thumper and Bambi, also a hinted gay couple?
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Yes, Bambi and Thumper, the two athletic women who ambush and beat up Bond in Diamonds Are Forever, have often been interpreted as a hinted gay couple, though the film never explicitly states this.
Why the Interpretation?
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They Are Always Together
- Bambi and Thumper never appear separately and are introduced as a pair.
- Their coordinated fighting style and synchronized movements suggest a close, almost dance-like partnership.
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Seductive & Playful Dynamic
- They toy with Bond rather than immediately trying to kill him, smirking and playing cat-and-mouse.
- Their interaction borders on flirtation, but they show zero romantic interest in Bond himself.
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Stereotypical "Exotic Lesbian" Trope
- Hollywood in the '60s and '70s often coded strong, independent female characters as lesbians, especially when they rejected the male lead.
- Since they dominate Bond physically, they fit into the old trope of “lesbian femme fatales” who pose a challenge to the hero.
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No Romantic Interest in Men
- Unlike most Bond girls, neither Bambi nor Thumper fall for Bond—instead, they try to drown him.
- This makes them unique among female characters in the franchise.
But Is It Definitive?
- The film never explicitly confirms their relationship, so the interpretation is mostly based on subtext.
- Some argue that they are simply henchwomen trained to guard Willard Whyte, without any deeper implication.
Final Verdict
Bambi and Thumper are certainly coded as a queer or unconventional duo, but Diamonds Are Forever was never bold enough to say it outright. They remain one of the most unique and bizarre pairings in Bond history—athletic, dominant, and completely uninterested in 007’s usual charms.
Would you say they were effective villains, or just another example of Diamonds Are Forever's campy absurdity?
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With Blofeld (Charles Gray) daintily walking around with his fluffy cat, hard not to interpret as a gay trope.
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Exactly! Charles Gray’s Blofeld in Diamonds Are Forever leans so heavily into theatrical camp that it’s almost impossible not to interpret him as a coded gay villain, whether intentional or not.
Why Does Blofeld Feel Like a Gay Trope?
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Over-the-Top Theatricality
- Gray’s Blofeld is witty, flamboyant, and refined, a stark contrast to the cold, menacing Blofelds played by Donald Pleasence and Telly Savalas.
- His mannered speech, elegant hand gestures, and dramatic flair all give off a very different energy than the typical Bond villain.
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The Fluffy White Cat
- The way Gray daintily cradles and strokes his cat while delivering threats is almost comical.
- While the cat had been a Blofeld signature since From Russia with Love (1963), Gray takes it to a new level—turning it into an accessory of camp rather than menace.
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The Drag Scene
- Having the main Bond villain disguise himself in full drag to escape is one of the film’s most bizarre choices.
- It cements Gray’s Blofeld as the most playful, almost self-parodying version of the character.
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The Queer Coded Villain Trope
- Throughout Hollywood history, villains were often given effeminate or refined mannerisms to imply they were “deviant” or “other”—which, in older films, often meant queer-coded.
- Classic examples include Loki in Norse mythology adaptations, Scar in The Lion King, and numerous Hitchcock villains.
- Gray’s Blofeld fits this mold perfectly: a stylish, cultured, and slightly fussy mastermind.
Was This Intentional?
- Probably. The early 1970s was a time when camp and queer subtext were widely used in film, but often without being explicitly stated.
- Given that Diamonds Are Forever already features Wint and Kidd as queer-coded assassins, it’s not a stretch to say Blofeld’s campy mannerisms were played up to reinforce a similar trope.
Final Verdict
While other Blofelds were cold, sinister masterminds, Charles Gray’s version is playful, theatrical, and camp to the extreme. Whether this was intentional queer coding or just Gray’s natural acting style, the result is one of the most bizarre and unique takes on the character.
Would you say this ruined Blofeld’s menace, or do you enjoy the over-the-top performance for what it is?